Learning Through Experience
In this new season of the Learning Through Experience podcast, we’re digging into something that resonates deeply with everyone right now: facing uncertainty. In a time marked by political shifts, social upheaval, and personal challenges, uncertainty isn't just a backdrop—it’s the environment we’re all navigating. But rather than viewing it as something to endure or escape, Heidi invites listeners to explore how we can learn our way through uncertainty, finding meaning, resilience, and even growth in the process.
In these episodes, you’ll hear from a diverse range of guests who bring their own stories, insights and perspectives on what it means to confront the unknown. From personal transformations to organizational shifts, from the micro to the macro, we’ll explore how facing uncertainty can become a catalyst for learning—inviting curiosity, fostering grit and shaping new ways of being.
Importantly, this isn’t a deep dive into the science of uncertainty or a prescriptive guide to resilience. Instead, it’s an open, accessible exploration of the human experience. Heidi and her guests will reflect on the felt, emotional dimensions of navigating the unknown—those moments when clarity feels just out of reach, and yet, something new begins to emerge.
Learning Through Experience has always been about more than just facts; it’s about the journey of discovery. This season, as we face uncertainty together, we hope to uncover not just how to survive it, but how to grow, connect and find meaning along the way. Welcome to Season 4. We love having you here.
Learning Through Experience is produced through the Yale School of Management.

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Episodes
- PodcastSeason 4Episode 2Duration 45:23
The Growth Curriculum: How Everyday Struggles Shape Us
What if the challenges you’re facing aren’t obstacles—but invitations to grow? In this episode, Heidi Brooks and leadership expert Jennifer Garvey Berger explore how we grow through uncertainty, not just survive it. They also discuss why change is essential for leaders, how to turn everyday challenges into opportunities for growth and why embracing imperfection might be the key to thriving in an anxious world.
- PodcastSeason 4Episode 1Duration 48:09
Art as Experience: How Aesthetic Experience Fuels Creativity, Collaboration, and Wellbeing
Creative expression is essential for everyone—to think differently, connect deeply and thrive through uncertainty. In the Season 4 premiere of Learning Through Experience, Heidi Brooks welcomes Ivy Ross and Susan Magsamen, co-authors of Your Brain on Art, for a thought-provoking conversation about how engaging with art can help shape the way we learn, collaborate and navigate life’s complexities.
- PodcastSeason 4Episode 1Duration 03:05
Introducing Season 4 of Learning Through Experience
Welcome to a new season of Learning Through Experience! This season will explore something that resonates deeply with everyone right now: facing uncertainty. My conversations are with a diverse array of exceptional guests who will talk with us about how they see and experience uncertainty through their lens. Together, we’ll dig into the mindsets, practices and environments that allow us to learn, adapt and thrive, even in—perhaps especially in—these uncertain times. Welcome to Season 4. I love having you here!
- PodcastSeason 3Episode 8Duration 10:35
Reflecting on Season 3 of Learning Through Experience
Thank you for tuning in this season on the Learning Through Experience podcast! In this season 3 reflection episode, I take a step back to reflect on the key themes, conversations, and experiences that shaped the show.
- PodcastSeason 3Episode 7Duration 36:44
Writing For Yourself and Writing to be Read
Writing has the power to transport us to the depths of the human experience – to illuminate the joys, sorrows and complexities that make us who we are. In this captivating final episode of Learning Through Experience Season Three, Amy Bloom and I explore the transformative power of the written word.
- PodcastSeason 3Episode 6Duration 52:18
Cultivating Wonderment in Teaching and Learning
Imagine a world where education isn't just about information but about inspiring awe—a spark that transforms learning into discovery. This episode of Learning Through Experience envisions this future where teaching and learning are more collaborative, experiential and empowering, for instructors and students alike. As my guest Jenny Frederick, director of Yale's Center for Teaching and Learning, emphasized in our conversation: “When experiences bring the conceptual to life—like, wow, I get it now—it can be a moment of wonder."
- PodcastSeason 3Episode 5Duration 37:07
What If Listening Could Change Everything?
What if listening could change everything? This raw and captivating episode with guest Avi Kluger reveals how listening and the “space between” people can unlock new ways of seeing, feeling and transforming, and profoundly reshape how we lead, connect and grow.
- PodcastSeason 3Episode 4Duration 28:05
Movement, Not Stasis: The Art and Journey of Kim Weston
Learning through experience is dynamic, not static. As you’ll hear in this episode with artist Kim Weston, her photography is a way of deepening understanding of ourselves and the world around us, seen and unseen.
- PodcastSeason 3Episode 3Duration 39:52
What If Art Could Transform How You Learn and Experience Life?
Learning through experience requires us to shift from the purely intellectual to a more holistic engagement. I try to create that shift by opening each of my leadership classes with some form of art—a poem, a piece of music or a visual work. It’s a way of helping my students, many of whom are management or law students, executives, or leaders in their fields, step out of their typical "brain-bound" mindset and into a space where they can let their thoughts, emotions and values guide their learning. For many, it’s an inconvenient and unfamiliar approach, but it’s exactly what I believe opens their minds and hearts to walking an unconventional path toward growth.
- PodcastSeason 3Episode 2Duration 40:20
Emotional Wisdom and the Permission to Feel
How do different emotions impact everyday life? And what are the kinds of experiences we want and need—in the classroom, at work, and in our own developmental trajectories—to be able to deepen our emotional wisdom so we can make better decisions and have healthier relationships? In this episode of Learning Through Experience, we dig deep into feelings with Dr. Marc Brackett.